The following are true narratives with changed names.

“I hate you! I hate you! I wish you were dead!”

Francene, young mother of two, screamed this at her older daughter, Misty. Her anguished cries pierced the still morning air of our small mountain valley from over 800 feet away.

Later that evening our daughter asked, “Why wasn’t Misty in school today, Daddy? I saw her running around in her yard.” “Don’t know,” I said.

A few days later I learned that Francene had experienced a recent abortion.

A young man named Alex hoped to be a father and build a family. When asked why he and his girlfriend had split, he answered in anguish, “She killed my baby!”

Celeste, mother of several children, was facing a major life-threatening surgery. When I questioned her about her plans for eternity should her surgery fail, she responded, “There is no way I could go to heaven!” When I asked why not, she replied, “I’ve had an abortion, no, I’ve had two. My husband demanded it. That is why I divorced him.”

My response, “God says abortion is murder and murder is sin. I and everyone on Earth have sinned in many ways. We have come up short on God’s will — doing what is right.”

But Jesus said, “All sins can be forgiven except ‘one’ and abortion is not that one. We need to repent or turn away from our sins and express our genuine sorrow to God in prayer.”

Another woman, Maude, told her boyfriend that she was pregnant. “Get an abortion” he demanded. “No!” she responded. “If you do not love our child, you do not love me.” Today that fetus is a mother also.

Nina, Dorene and April were babies from three separate families. On three different occasions, one of their parents said to me, “Do you see that child? The doctors recommended that we abort her.” That was 15-25 years ago.

I have followed the progress of these outstanding young ladies and am thrilled when I read of their lives in the newspapers, see their most recent pictures or receive a report from their parents.

All the unborn babies aborted since Roe v. Wade in 1973 were innocent and sentenced to an unjust death by the U.S. Supreme Court at that time.

Just recently I read that at least $2 million from Planned Parenthood made its way to Gov. Ralph Northam’s gubernatorial campaign, according to The Hill. Heaven and hell alone know how much abortion money helped to build the great “blue wall” against life.

Abortion is a giant business built by Margaret Sanger, who has been called a racist, and fostered by the U.S. and certain state governments.

Harold Myers lives in Broadway.

(39) comments

Diana

Bishopsboy...You are the delusional one. Please point out to me where I said any child was undeserving of protection. My question to you was do you also defend the children that are born and abused? You only read into my post what you wanted to see...not what was asked. So maybe, be compassionate to yourself and purchase a millstone. And yes, I do know what you mean by that.

bishopsboy

Dear Diane, please read my original response again. The answer to your question is there. I’m not going to repeat it here.

bishopsboy

Sorry, I meant Diana.....

bishopsboy

So dear bkn, what's your position on killing live born children from botched abortions? Is it acceptable for the abortion provider to denying them life-saving medical treatment or to euthanize them as Governor Northam and other liberal Democrats have suggested?

bknjholl

The decisions you make regarding reproductive health care with your loved ones, and your doctor(s) are yours alone, as are mine. It is inappropriate for religion, politics, government, or internet trolls to insert themselves into these private, personal conversations.

bishopsboy

Dear bkn, it's indeed interesting that you won't speak up for the rights of a defenseless newborn in need of medical assistance while loudly decrying the murders of a few abortionists. Why the difference? Don't you believe that all live born humans deserves basic protections? (For the record, killing abortionists is murder and is wrong.)

bknjholl

I speak for the newborn just as powerfully as I speak for the rights of the parents to plan for and care for their children.

prodigalson

You are correct Mufalme Bishop. You gave Mr. Holl the opportunity to defend these precious little babies after they are born, and he didn’t do it. Unfortunately, this is the case with all Demokkkrats. Just like their hero, Governor Ralph “Coonman” Northam, they advocate for abortion right up through the ninth month, and even after birth. Governor Northam simply made the mistake of admitting what all Demokkkrats believe, amd it’s totally disgusting.

bishopsboy

Dear bkn, I have to agree with my royal brother, Prodigal. You seem to be talking out of both sides of your mouth regarding newborns from botched abortions. Do they really have fewer rights to life than other newborns?

Diana

Bishopsboy...what a hypocrite you and your friends are. You only care for the child that is not born. you could give a hoot less about what happens to that child after birth..You talk about basic protection...do you care about the 2 month old that dies from 96 broken bones or the 6 month old whose father crushed his head with his boot, or the babies and kids that are tortured ie:cigarette burns on their bodies, placed in scalding hot water, put in microwaves , raped..killed and thrown in the trash. You don't care if that child has food,medical care or a roof over their head. Do you speak upand defend thesde kids?

Programmer

Everyone can see that those kinds of abuses are absolutely horrible and the child does not deserve that kind of treatment. What makes it any different for the child to be dismembered in the womb?

bknjholl

Diana - Not only are they hypocritical about the sanctity of life, but they continually refuse to enter the debate honestly. No one yet has even considered or even attempted to understand an opposing point of view. They have stubbornly held to a simplistic, one-size-fits-all argument (at least on this thread) without respecting the real complexity of the issue. They focus on only one particular outcome and ignore all the rest.

bishopsboy

Dear Diane, you are completely delusional if you think I don’t care about all children. Jesus was very clear on how children are to be treated and said that anyone who harms one would be better off being killed. (Matt 18:6-7) That is my position as well. That is why I defend all children both unborn and born alike. You and your sister posters like bkn seem to think that unborn children and some born children are undeserving of protection from mutilation and bloody murder committed by organizations like Planned Parenthood and their affiliates which profit from their murders and selling of their body parts. That’s a sad and sick mindset. Please be compassionate to yourself and purchase a millstone….

bishopsboy

Dear bkn, for once I agree with you. There is a hypocritical poster here who doesn't argue honestly or consider other points of view. Hint: look in the mirror.

prodigalson

Mufalme Bishop and Programmer, you have both done an excellent job of getting the anti-life posters to admit what they really believe. Well done.

Programmer

While God doesn't need me to defend Him or debate about Him on the internet, what is your point on focusing on just two statements from the original author which refer to scripture? The letter was about the abortion industry and how it negatively affects people and described four personal abortion experiences among other issues. In what you are writing in these comments it seems like you missed the point of the letter only to narrow in on a personal dispute with God and inflating attacks on abortion providers. In doing so I think you diminished the life of the aborted and show no compassion for the 60 million babies slaughtered innocently.

Programmer

this posted out of thread for some reason, was a question for bknjholl.

bknjholl

Prog - The two focus points are just the start. Mr. Myers effectively defends the pro-life movement’s religious and moral objections supporting the idea of governmental and religious oversight of personal, private decisions regarding women’s health care.

Programmer

A womans right to murder is a slippery slope and I think you are here defending it with any excuse possible.

bknjholl

No one has the right to murder. The constant accusation of murder is not a persuasive argument. It represents the most radical policy promoted by religious elements of the pro-life position. Calling those who disagree murderers serves no purpose except to enrage and radicalize.

Programmer

I disagree with your position and your descriptions and I don't think it's possible to has out the nuances in this forum.

bknjholl

Agree. We disagree. Peace.

prodigalson

Intellectually Mr. Holl, you have already lost the argument. Tell me, why is it that we have laws against killing a baby the moment after it is born? The answer is obvious: The moment after it is born, a baby is quite obviously a viable human being, and taking the life of that human being would be cold blooded murder. Why, then, do you liberals claim that that little baby doesn’t deserve the same cinsideration the moment before it is born? The answer is again obvious: You are denying what you know logically to be true. Science proves it, and everyone (including you) knows it. The truth of the matter is that this is not a matter of the head with you liberals. It is a matter of the heart. Your heart needs to change before you will ever acknowledge the truth. Abortion is cold blooded murder, pure and simple.

bknjholl

As I've said before, you do not understand my position. In this post, you are arguing with yourself using the straw man fallacy. I see no further reason to respond. If you want to engage in an honest discussion, do a little research concerning the rarely performed medical procedure that occurs shortly before birth or in the late stages of pregnancy. Look up the possible reasons for such a procedure including: “Premature abruption, and placenta accreta” that would endanger the life of the mother. Find out about the risks involved including, “extensive blood loss, stroke, and septic shock,” all of which can lead to the death of the mother. Then ask who gets to decide about the choices the family, the mother, the medical professionals involved, have to make. If you answer the government or politicians, or your religious leaders, you would be wrong.

prodigalson

Of course you see no reason to respond Mr. Holl. Your true beliefs have been exposed, and you’ve lost the argument. I would stop responding as well if I were you.

bknjholl

I'm just wondering if Mr. Myers created his own version of the words of Jesus. Then I wonder if taking the name of the Lord in vain carries any weight.

prodigalson

In what way, exactly, did Mr. Myers take liberties with the words of Jesus? Just because you don’t like hearing the truth about abortion, Mr Holl, doesn’t mean that Christians like Mr. Myers are going to stop repeating it.

bknjholl

Mr. Myers misquoted Jesus in one of his stories. Specifically, “But Jesus said, ‘All sins can be forgiven except ‘one’ and abortion is not that one. We need to repent or turn away from our sins and express our genuine sorrow to God in prayer.’” Further, Mr. Myers misquoted God, specifically, “My response, ‘God says abortion is murder and murder is sin. I and everyone on Earth have sinned in many ways. We have come up short on God’s will — doing what is right.’” Neither of these quotes is accurate. At best, they are mischaracterizations or misleading anecdotes interpreting the words of Jesus and God. Never in the words of Jesus is found the word “abortion.” God is famously vengeful, wrathful, and violent. More than 20 divinely inspired mass slaughters were carried out in his name, including pregnant women and children.

Programmer

Dear Sir, it looks like you are taking the responses of Mr. Myers and including them with the words of Jesus and running the two together. Mr. Myers is accurately describing the intent of what God says in His word and applying in a context applicable to the situation. I think you are really reaching for an excuse for abortion on this. Jesus said "let the little children come to me" and I'm sure he meant not in aborted pieces. As for God, He is holy and will do as His righteousness requires. Who are you to judge Him?

bknjholl

Ok. I’ll give you that Mr. Myers was telling a story and that they weren’t actual quotes. I’ve already offered that in my previous response. In no way do his quotes “describe the intent of what God says in his Word.” I’m assuming that the words of Jesus carry the same weight and are therefore equally misconstrued. You and Mr. Myers supply the context. I am not now nor have I ever been for abortion. I also am not interested in a quarrel over religion. If you’ll go back and look at the stories from Mr. Myers, you’ll see that in each case, the women in the stories attempted to exert their control over their unique situations. Each story was different. Each case was different. It is the insertion of religion and especially the radicalized religion that distorts this issue. Again, I will not engage in a quarrel over religion.

prodigalson

Great post Programmer! And yes, it is obvious that Mr. Holl is desperately attempting to rationalize abortion as a respectable choice when in his heart, he knows full well that abortion is nothing less than cold blooded murder. You ask Mr. Holl “Who are you to judge God?” Well, Mr. Holl is a liberal. That’s what they do.

bknjholl

In my heart, I know that it is cold-blooded murder to kill eight doctors and maim or injure 17 more who helped women who made their constitutionally-guaranteed choice to have an abortion. I know in my heart that it is terrorism perpetrated by zealots to have committed more than 6000 acts of violence against abortion providers, including fire bombings, arsons, kidnappings, assaults, and death threats. I also know in my heart that unless you possess a pair of ovaries, none of this is your business anyway.

prodigalson

Thank you Mr. Holl, for finally admitting what you really believe. You are not against abortion at all, as you claim in one of your posts. Please just start being honest about what you really believe from the start, and you will likely garner more respect from those of us who see through this facade.

sbsheridan

Thank you, BK. I generally do not trust common worshippers, such as myself, who claim they KNOW the intent of God. Biblical scholars have debated such issues for decades, and they often aren't sure of the meaning of parables and other teachings. But, as you say, enough of debating religion on the internet.

bknjholl

Prod, it's pretty clear you don't know where I stand. A hint, Abortion is not a "for or against" issue.

Programmer

Do you know Jesus in your heart? Jesus came that we might have life. He came not to condemn this world but to save the world.

Programmer

In my best Forrest Gump voice. I don't need ovaries to know what murder is.

prodigalson

Great letter Harold. Governor Ralph Northam is a proven racist and baby killer. Anyone who voted for Northam, or for any other Demokkkrat, has voted for the senseless butchering and murder of the unborn. The Demokkkrat party is pure evil, and more and more every day, that evil is being exposed for the world to see.

GWead

Well, at least Holl doesn't have to misquote God to make his point. How awfully liberal of him.

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